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  • Mood: Disbelief
  • Listening to: Nothing at the Moment
  • Reading: Nothing at the Moment
  • Watching: Nothing at the Moment
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People are probably getting sick of hearing me repeat this by now. After all, I've emphasized it so many times already in the past few months. But the IZ fandom REALLY sickens me. I swear to God. What the fucking hell happened to the fandom, you guys? Things were never this way before. There was so much less hate in the past. I remember I used to enjoy signing on here and looking at all the wonderful IZ art. It's not like that any longer though.

I'm not part of the fandom anymore. In fact, I left it about a month back. Yet I still come across the cruelties of newer users. People who think it's alright to spread hate. Some people may think I'm that way myself, but honestly, all I've ever done is defend the people who mean the most to me on here. I've met my closest friends through the fandom. But the fandom has changed since then. It deteriorates a little more each and every day, and I can't help but mourn that fact.

I honestly don't understand why people can't just be more open-minded in this fandom though. Constantly, I see people fighting over even the smallest of issues. Pairings usually cause the upmost disruption in the fandom. But why the fuck can't people just respect the differing interests of other users? I mean, seriously? Did we not all share a similar love of the show itself? That's what brought us all here to begin with. So what if different users enjoy different pairings? I've always loved ALL the pairings and can't understand why people who can support one pairing but not another have to go out of their way to flame artist's for their differing interests.

Even people who aren't into pairings at all seem to have this heir about them, as though they think they're better than every other fan because they don't ship Jhonen's characters. But honestly, it's just closed-mindedness when users can't mind their own damn business and let artists draw what they want.

I draw/write for myself now. That's the way things were back when I first started out here, and that's the way I want things to be again. But other users on this site. Ugh...I just don't understand HOW there could be so many closed-minded IZ fans out there. You'd think humans would have evolved past leaving flaming comments on other people's art by now. But no. It continues, and I literally see this happening like clockwork every single fucking day.

Yes, people are entitled to their opinions. I'm not saying their not. But why voice an opinion in such a negative fashion? Why purposefully find works that you hate just so you can flame them? Some people claim they come across those works by "accident," but honestly, how hard is it for people to just NOT leave an insulting comment on the work? Certainly we've all got better things we could be doing with our time.

It honestly kills me on the inside that the fandom for my favorite show had to go so downhill. And I know people probably hate hearing me complain about it. But writing journals like this is just another way of coping with the fact that something I used to love is now something I hate. No. I don't hate the show itself. I never could. But the people who think they're entitled to spreading their opinions around through hate comments/groups/art/etc. They're the ones whom I truly hate. They ruin everything for everyone because they're selfish and can't accept the fact that the show doesn't revolve around them.

So many of my friends can no longer even ENJOY IZ because of other people basically telling them they're not entitled to enjoy it the way they want. Well, let me ask you this, spreaders of hate. What makes you so special? What makes you think you have any right to enjoy the show the way you want yet tell other artists they CAN'T?

I apologize for the rant, you guys. I really do. But this is just how I feel regarding the fandom. There's nothing but hate and division left amongst IZ fans, and it just disgusts me, to be perfectly honest. It disgusts me that the days I used to enjoy are over. It disgusts me that the more open-minded fans who USED to exist in the fandom have left. And more than anything else, it disgusts me that some of my closest friends can't even bring themselves to enjoy IZ any longer because of these closed-minded bastards.

Obviously, it's harder for me to detatch myself from IZ altogether because it's been a part of my life since the very first day it AIRED on TV. I've been a fan since 8th grade and still love watching the show whenever possible. But it just saddens me when newer fans of the show are driven away because of the hate of the fandom. They deserve to enjoy the IZ universe to it's fullest and shouldn't have to be subjected to the rude comments of people who only care to gain popularity through doing art for the show. If people really love and respect the show, its characters, and the UNIVERSE they exist in, then kindly stop spreading the hate already and ignore what you don't like about another person's interpretation of it. It's really not that fucking hard to do. Never will I understand the mindset behind people who purposefully go looking for trouble on this site. I look at art, comment on it/fave it if I like it, and ignore it if I don't like it. It's as simple as that. No point going out of your way to comment on something you DON'T like.
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zoroana Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2012  Student Digital Artist
Agreed, with the fandom this bad (and probably getting worse) I couldnt imagine how itd be like in the future.. >_<
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HiddenShadows798 Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2012
It's like a cancer; a few people mutate into something horrible and begin to multiply until it takes over the entire body, or just a portion, unless something is done to put a stop to it.
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Biohazard-Mummy Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2012
I find myself fully agreeing, though this makes me a little embarrassed that I did a meme where I pointed out my least favorite pairing and put my least favorite character in an embarrassing costume. I'm wondering if that's okay now or if I should scrap it. >.<; Fortunately I haven't been bashed for anything that I've done, and if I did, I'd just ignore it. Though I do miss the fandom for what it was... :c

-Bio
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ZimXDib Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
I wasn't here when the fandom was good so I don't have anything to compare it too but I've just been disgusted...no... what's a better word for disgusted? ....hmm... I'm just so revolted by the fact that people always PURPOSELY coming on my page and a lot of my other friends pages to leave a nasty comment. Like serious, my username is ZimXDib what do you think your going to find on my page?! (Sorry for that little rant.) Anyways, the fandom is horrible and I'm just waiting it out and hoping it will get better.
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Metros2soul Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2012  Hobbyist Filmographer
I guess it's been a pretty bad day for me today.

Just when I thought the fandom couldn't get any worse, there was that comment. Then my progress on WhiteV2 was lost when my damn DS battery died. Luckily I saved before that though, even though only about 15 minutes worth more game time I'll have to do again. -_-;

Then a damn browser hijacker gets into my browsers. Be VERY wary of a search engine called www.searchnu.com/406. It takes over your internet browers. The only way I could get rid of it was a System Restore. I think that solved the problem. [link]

But anyway, onto what I was going to originally say. The fandom is pretty much dead to me at this point, as I've mentioned numerous times to you before. You would think that there was a chance it might improve, but I have high doubts of that happening, especially after I experienced first hand just how bad some of the people in it actually are. I am glad to be over and out of the Zim fandom, and I highly doubt I'll ever get back into it. I still love the show, of course. But the fandom is just too much. It's almost ridiculous. People will just come along and put you down in anyway they possibly can. -_- I really regret trying to be the better person at one point, and look where it got me.

When I first joined the fandom about two years ago, it was nowhere near as bad as it is now. It's a shame how people in it are. I've lost interest in the show in general, but the fandom itself has majorly contributed to me leaving it. If Zim were to go back on air, I might watch it, but at this point I actually don't really want anything to do with it. Don't get me wrong, I had a great time at DoomCON, and I would go to a third IC, but only for the fact we had a great time and meeting the voice actors was a blast, especially Wally.

The fandom is just terrible. I will not miss it, I can tell you that much.

If I do draw Zim art again, it will be purely out of respect for the show itself. I couldn't care less if people think my art is bad, its what I enjoy doing, and I'm happy with my style.

It was good while it lasted I guess. But yeah... I'm totally over it now.
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SoftieLocks Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Ugh, I agree... ;-; Come to think of it, the IZ fandom was exceptionally better just a year ago than it is today, which is really weird. How could the fandom just dwindle so quickly? And especially since DoomCON took place earlier this year. I was certain that that would help the fandom a bit, but it seems to have just taken a nose-dive for some reason. I hate it so much, and the ONLY way this fandom will even remotely flourish again is if IZ goes back on the air. That's it. As of right now, though, the IZ fandom is dead and gone. :/
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Pat-The-Kitsune Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Honestly, I think it's BECAUSE they started airing the episodes on TV again that the fandom went so downhill. After that point, the fandom just got a flood of younger generation fans who don't respect the show whatsoever. And I honestly believe DoomCon has done more harm than good. It brought in more people like that one bitch we all know and hate. :/ And people only care to gain popularity from the fandom nowadays. It's sickening. This fandom's fans used to have a lot more respect for the show until these younger kids came in.
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KillerWaffleFreak Featured By Owner Nov 8, 2012  Student General Artist
I see this crap everywhere, but *sigh* why Zim? ;_;
It's one of the best shows to ever be aired and always will be. I wish people could just be grateful for it.
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Pat-The-Kitsune Featured By Owner Nov 8, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I just wish people had enough respect for it not to hate on what they DON'T like about the universe. I'm so sick of what it's turned into. All this hate is enough to drive just about anybody away.
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KillerWaffleFreak Featured By Owner Nov 8, 2012  Student General Artist
To be truthful, I've seen worse than what I have in the fandom. But you're right. Such a great show doesn't deserve to be fought about.
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Pat-The-Kitsune Featured By Owner Nov 8, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
It's a shame the amount of hate that developed over the years in this fandom. I honestly have a hard time believing at times how bad it's gotten. It's almost like a shock to see things the way they are.
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KillerWaffleFreak Featured By Owner Nov 8, 2012  Student General Artist
I wish I could've seen the fandom when it wasn't so bad :s
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Pat-The-Kitsune Featured By Owner Nov 8, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I wish a lot of people could have seen it when it wasn't so bad too. :< That's one of the reasons the change upsets me so much today. It's built up such a bad reputation when it really wasn't all that bad long ago.
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KillerWaffleFreak Featured By Owner Nov 8, 2012  Student General Artist
:no: You'd think people would have the ability to set aside their difference in opinions. Or understand that opinion isn't the same as fact.
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CalilTheGayPrince Featured By Owner Nov 8, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
^This. :iconthumbsupplz:
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HeidiMoose Featured By Owner Nov 8, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Live and let live is a hard concept for some to understand. I have no idea why.
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Pat-The-Kitsune Featured By Owner Nov 8, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
It just sickens me how little respect people have for other user's interests on this site. It really does. :no:
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HeidiMoose Featured By Owner Nov 8, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I agree. But it's not just here. I mean, any aspect in life you're going to see crap like that (politics being a perfect example). I haven't seen much in the IZ fandom (yet), but I've only been active with it again over the last few months. I took a very long break from Invader Zim.

It's just sad that people can't let others have their fun.
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Pat-The-Kitsune Featured By Owner Nov 8, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I see it in everyday aspects of life also, but it still just pisses me off to no end. Trust me, the Invader Zim fandom is HORRIBLE and brings out the worst in people. Even myself. I will admit, I got caught up in it for a few years, and I've seen myself become less and less friendlier with people. But I'm trying to pull out of it and get back to how I was before, when I could create IZ art without having to deal with the fandom. The only reason I let myself get swept up in all that drama was because I wanted to defend my friends. Now that they've all for the most part left the fandom though, there's no point for me to really remain in it. My passion for the show will never die. But I don't know if I can handle letting myself get caught up in all that fandom shit again. It's destructive.
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HeidiMoose Featured By Owner Nov 8, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Completely understandable. And there's nothing wrong with defending your friends. I guess I'm fortunate that I haven't seen too much negativity but I am sure that I will eventually. But I tend to keep to myself for the most part. lol
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Pat-The-Kitsune Featured By Owner Nov 8, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Well, if you're one of the lucky few who can keep out of the fandom drama, then I highly recommend keeping things that way. It's alright to make friends, but hopefully you have better judgment than I did when I first made friends in the fandom. I went four years without having any trouble with anybody. Then it only took one "friend" to pull me into the drama. I defended her as much as I could. Unfortunately, she turned out to be less of a friend and more of a user. I regret the day I ever began defending her. Though, that's not to say, I regret defending my current friends.
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HeidiMoose Featured By Owner Nov 8, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Ah. Yes, I have experienced "friends" like that (but in person, not online). I'm sorry you had to deal with that. Some people just suck and we don't realize it until it's too late. :-/
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Pat-The-Kitsune Featured By Owner Nov 8, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Honestly, I've had to deal with "friends" like that all my life, both online AND offline. And it makes me question my judgment sometimes. But there's not much I can do to fix that little judgment problem of mine. I can only wait and see how friendships play out in the long run. Some of them play out how I like and others, not so much. It's frustrating but necessary in order to weed out the bad ones and find the true gems.
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BlutEisen Featured By Owner Nov 8, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
I must admit, ever since my good friend :iconbrainworms: left deviant-art I've let the fandom of the show drift away. It isn't the same as it was a year ago. Still, I guess these sorts of things are bound to happen in any sort of social situation. It's funny really, when you think about it, but Humans have a natural "Purtian" instinct. That is to say, they want to find what they deem "the most correct" form of anything and then attack anyone who doesn't conform to it.

Thoughts, though, evolve over time. Even the original Puritans who settled in New England eventually had a rift in opinion between themselves and that caused a lot of divisions and new ideas too. In the end, all one can is grin and bear it. For as much as we like to think we have moved past that "Black-Coated Self-Righteous Hypocrite" - there's one lurking in everyone of us.
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Pat-The-Kitsune Featured By Owner Nov 8, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
No kidding. I just find it sad how downhill this fandom has gone though. I mean, I very distinctly remember fours years of complete peace in it. Four years where I never saw any fighting and I was able to get along with just about anybody in the fandom. I don't know what changed all of a sudden. Now all I see is hate everywhere I turn. I'm not saying my interpretation of the show/characters/universe is the "most correct" or anything like that. But it really just disgusts me that people feel the need to make a big deal out of differing opinions about the show. Have your opinions if you want. Don't shove them down other people's throats though by disrespecting and insulting their own. Some of my closest friends have left the fandom because of the hate they got from other people in the fandom. It disgusts me because they deserve to enjoy the fandom however they like just like anybody else in the fandom does.
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BlutEisen Featured By Owner Nov 8, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
Not, I'm not saying that you are. Merely offering it as a possible explanation for why this sort of "hateful reactionism" has suddenly occurred.

It's sad thinking about it now. The whole reason I got back into deviantart in the first place was because of that particular fandom....now it just seems like a distant memory. *sigh* So much has changed. I felt last year was so much happier than this one. This year just feels....dead. Maybe because so much of the spirit has been drained out of it.

I had watched Invader Zim when I was small and then had rediscovered it last year. The possibilities felt endless. Now it just seems so shallow now....petty bickering over the minutest of details....makes me sad really.
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Pat-The-Kitsune Featured By Owner Nov 8, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Same. I try to enjoy my IZ writing and art the best I can, but it just becomes increasingly difficult to do so. I put my heart and soul into my IZ work for years. In fact, it was all that hard work and love for the show that ultimately made me a better artist and writer. But I see so little respect left for the show nowadays. Sure, it's got lots of "fans" but a lot of those fans don't seem to have that same passion. Some even admit to only creating IZ related works for the sake of popularity. The spirit really has been drained and I yearn for the old days when more love and dedication went into people's works.
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